I don't know, I have an 18 yr. old I 'd consider trading up for (even if they weren't really switched at birth)
troubled mind
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switched at birth
by Ellie inhave any of you seen the story on the news today about the 2 thai children that were accidentely switched at birth?.
they are 10 years old now and their families have decided to let the children decide if they want to swap back again to live with their biological parents.. what would you do if you had a child and discovered that they had been switched at birth?.
would you want to keep the child you had been raising or would you want your biological child back?
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BIG NEWS I recieved my pamphlet WOW
by skyman inthe baylor university has a potential time bomb for the society all i can say is wow i can see how now.
you better get a copy.
use this link and get you a copy http://www3.baylor.edu/church_state/ordering_publications.htm
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troubled mind
I received my copy on Saturday too. Just finished reading it, eye opening to see the actual full quotes not just the Society's altered version. Do you think R&F members will give it a read ,or will they consider it apostate since the author attended meetings until she reached adulthood? I would hope this misrepresentation of facts will cause others to wonder(think) what other topics are likewise misrepresented. I will be sharing the information with my witness family .On the basis they know I'm doing Blood Research they may see this as an acceptable source of information to consider.Hopefully that will open the the door to share other things I've learned ,like from COC.
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How do you choose......
by EC ini was born and raised a jw.... right now i know i am still going through the deprogramming, but in the pit of my stomach i so want to believe in something.
i don't know if it is because i always have had a regular "schedule" with god, but to leave and not believe anymore to me is very lonely.
where do you start?
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I think I can relate to what you are saying. I am in a process of change .I still feel a need to figure out what I believe as far as God,right now I don't know who to pray to either.I think maybe, pray to heavenly Father our Creator, and leave off any first names. What I have concluded is I won't have all the answers right away, if ever ,so take a day at a time and be open to listen to others opinions.I set before me things I know for sure # 1 I refuse to live a life motivated by guilt any more.#2 If something bothers my conscience then I don't go along with it.# 3 I will do things that bring me happiness and joy. That's pretty basic stuff right now ,but it gets me through the day.
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im hurt, desperate, confused and considering this religion - advice?
by very_confused inlike the subject title says, i'm hurt, desperate and confused and don't know what to do anymore.
i'm so desperate to have something to live for that i'm considering converting to something like the jehovah's witnesses.
i know this might seem a bit extreme but please hear me out.
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troubled mind
I must agree taking on a religion right now is not a very healthy chioce to be made while so depressed. What you need is a good support group.I bet your Doctor could help find one for you , or even some one at your school could give you some contact groups. Give prescription med's a chance sometimes it takes a while for them to kick in and you must be deligent to stick to the doses prescribed. Try not to make major changes in your life until your mentally thinking clearly. It will not help to mix other drugs in with therapy because they can just make the prescribed meds not work properly. well that's my motherly advice for the day
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Shunning
by sass_my_frass ini've had a bit of a breakthrough in realising that the disfellowshipping has achieved the exact opposite of what it was supposed to; it was supposed make me see the seriousness of my error and want to return, but it has instead made me see that if it is actually a big deal, it's god who forgives, not these guys, and it's driven me completely away.
they think that holding to ransom my relationships with old friends and relatives will make it worth the struggle, but... to be honest i don't want conditional love from anybody.
i think i'll eventually feel an occasional background sadness over three good friends i'll never see again, and i'll miss that history we had together.
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I agree so much with the comments made here on this subject. I have always been at odds with myself over the treatment of DF'D individuals. If someone chooses a different life let them go,but stop acting so childish when it comes to treating them as if dead. My husband has a brother that has been Df'd for about 10yrs,since he was 18.I don't think my husband has seen him or spoke to him except once that whole time.My mother -in-law will call and tell me how awful she feels not knowing his wife or child,and I tell her", no one is putting a gun to your head, you can choose to make ammends with him it is up to you." But she won't go against JW thought .I can not understand this reasoning as a mother ,nothing , no one will come between myself and my children.
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I got a delivery today from Commentary Press.....
by troubled mind ini'm so excited , i'm almost giddy .
wow ,ray has a lot to say, these books are thick !
which one should i start with or does it matter ?
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I was wondering the same thing ? Anyone know for sure if Ray Franz is still alive ? And can we contact him ? I have finnished COC , my eyes are actually sore from staying up until 2a.m. every night on xmas break to read it in privacy. I am planning on going back and adding my thoughts in the margins as someone else here suggested. In Search of I read selections and plan on a deeper search after I rest my eyes a bit.
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For myself the lack of genuine love has been the catalyst for me to dig deeper into what really is "truth". When I would see evidence of ill-treatment the excuse was", Jehovah's org. is perfect it's just the people in it are imperfect." That got to be very old real quick. I live in a small town and everyone in the cong. knows everyone else's business, to the point your life is always critiqued by those that think their opinion matters.The smiles are fake the hugs are stiff. God be with you if you don't live up to the standard, because I guantee no one else will stand by you. Recently the blood issue has been a huge disillusion...........it should be up to each one's own conscience what they, and their doctor choose for treatment period ! Ever since studying the " Greatest Man Book" about Jesus life it has bothered me how little we ever talk about him.Over the past few years Everything is about Loyalty to the organization. It just doesn't feel right. Six years ago I visited Bethel for the first time , and I can still remember the cold,numb, feeling I got. It reminded me of the Military installations I had grown up on when I was a kid . Here's to all those in the process of freeing themselves of the wtbs illusion,and becoming one of the undeceived .
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We have TMS/KM tomorrow night. I have the talk on "Profanity" , anyone want to help me write it?
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I just told my Dad I am fading.
by Forscher inas many of you know, i am a fader.
the last meeting i went to was the memorial a few years ago.
tonight my dad (not a dub, never been a dub, he is a baptist) called for one of our infrequent hello, goodbyes.
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Forscher , I wish you all the best and I hope you and your Dad will become closer. It may just open a new door for you.
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I just told my Dad I am fading.
by Forscher inas many of you know, i am a fader.
the last meeting i went to was the memorial a few years ago.
tonight my dad (not a dub, never been a dub, he is a baptist) called for one of our infrequent hello, goodbyes.
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troubled mind
I nearly fell over when I saw your post. I just told my "worldly" father today that I know longer share the JW beliefs that some of the rest of my family does.I asked him to keep it between us for now. He was so happy he had tears in his eyes.Then he was kind of mad because he said," haven't I told you all along that JW's are a cult group." Nobody listens to me, but I've let you kids decide for yourself.... I told him how unhappy I have been for so long, and how anxious I am ,what will happen to the rest of my family .He said don't worry you can always come talk to me.